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Darkfall Unholy Wars on Steam Greenlight


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If you love sandbox games give these guys some love and get Darkfall Unholy Wars on Steam: http://forums.darkfa...ad.php?t=334141


KEY FEATURES
  • Massive Land and Naval PvP Battles: Thousands of players can participate simultaneously in wars and sieges on land and sea, in real-time, on a single server.
  • A Huge, Seamless World: The world of Agon is a large open world that consists of both land and water and gives the freedom to players to uncover its hidden secrets.
  • Flexible Roles: Choose role at will, switching from meat shield to master mage to benevolent healer. Players can switch between roles, skills, spells, and ability boosters on the fly. Develop your skills in all roles and experience the game in a multitude of different ways over time or specialize in a single role and be the one your friends depend on to fulfill that calling.
  • Full Loot: You keep what you kill. Players can loot all of the goods from a slain enemy, and vice versa.
  • Persistence: Players can affect the fabric of the game world, constructing and fortifying cities across Agon and building empires that last as long as they can defend them.
THE WIPE
Darkfall: Unholy Wars is a new game, and upon its release, Darkfall 1.0 will be shut down. Characters will not be transferred over. Everyone will start over with a brand new character.

DFUW CLIENT FEE
Players who have ever purchased a Darkfall account will not have to purchase a client for Unholy Wars. They will simply pay their subscription fee.


BUNNY-JUMPING
Fall damage has been increased to reach the cap of the game, and if a player takes enough fall damage to kill them, that player becomes incapacitated. The ‘Slow Fall’ spell is a great utility added to the game to counteract this, but it is on a long cooldown. People can become incapacitated from bunny hopping.

RACES
No specific new races have been announced, and no races have been removed (as far as I’ve seen). Melee reach is supposed to be more normalized and balanced. For example, look at the Ork and Human pictures on facebook and compare the two. The Ork is definitely beefy but he isn’t much larger than the human. It is probably safe to assume that a similar approach has been taken for the other races as well.

ROLES
Players will be able to switch between roles, but only have one selected at any given time.
Roles are not classes, but temporary specializations.
The game will include four (4): Elementalist (mage), Primalist (priest), Warrior (fighter), and Skirmisher (ranger).

Warriors can wear heavy armor. Skirmishers can wear medium armor. Spellcasters can wear light armor or robes. There is evidence to believe that some robes will affect spellcasting.

A Warrior has access to a range of melee, defensive, and combat oriented skills.
A Skirmisher has access to light weapon and bow skills.
A Primalist has access to priestly magic. And an Elementalist to powerful magery.

The Warrior and the Skirmisher role will also offer a choice of 4 schools each which will be opposing in pairs exactly like the magic schools.

The Warrior role is probably self explanatory but the Skirmisher is a medium armored role that can be either close combat oriented or use a bow to deliver deadly hits from a distance.

There are quite a few things we believe you will find interesting that are related to this role system and we will present it in detail in the future.

MAGIC
*Insta-cast offensive ray spells have been removed from the game, due to their imbalance.

There are two types of magic: priest (primalist) and mage (elementalist).

The mage is intelligence based and can select two schools from Fire, Earth, Water, and Air. Fire blocks Water and vice versa.

Earth blocks Air and vice versa. The mage will also select one school to be primary and the other to be secondary.

This will further diversify mages. For example, a player who selects Fire as the primary school and Earth as the secondary school will have a considerably different playstyle and spell selection compared to someone who selected Earth as their primary and Fire as their secondary.

Another example: Fire is supposed to be more useful for longer-ranged attacks against multiple targets, while Air will be more favorable for close combat in smaller numbers.

The priest is a wisdom based spellcaster and can select two schools from Life, Pain, Law, and Chaos. Simliar to the mage, Life blocks Pain and vice versa. Law blocks Chaos and vice versa.

New spells and spell effects have been added.
There are more robes, which can affect gameplay.

Minor Incantations is both intelligence and wisdom based. It is also available to all characters, no matter what they are wearing. There are five utility spells in this school, and none of them require reagents to cast.
Major Magic will also be available to anyone.

Mana Missile – Your typical low level damage dealing spell.
Heal Self – The standard self healing spell for all characters.

Light – Can be cast on enemies to illuminate them or on allies to illuminate dark areas. Our differed lighting system is what makes this possible.

Slow Fall – Falling damage is quite perilous in Darkfall 2.0. The cap for fall damage has been increased quite a bit and you will take such damage for shorter drops than in the current game. Also falling damage will leave you incapacitated if it exceeds your current hit point total.

If you are out alone or with friends that is a minor inconvenience as you will either recover on your own or get revived. If you are being chased by an enemy though, a gank is more likely to follow. Slow fall will be life saving in such situations but it needs to be timed quite accurately to be effective.

Beacon – A spell for marking targets.
A lot of work has been done in balancing magic and making the effectiveness of spells make more sense.
The primary factor when determining spell effectiveness is the governing attribute. Intelligence and Wisdom levels will play a major role on how much of an impact you do while casting spells.

Of course Intelligence based spells only take this attribute into consideration with Wisdom based ones doing the same. Staves have been rebalanced and their rank now plays a more prominent role in the effectiveness of the spells you are casting.

No word has been spoken about Witchcraft, Necromancy, Spell Chanting, or Arcane magics. It is probably safe to assume that these schools have taken on new names and reworkings in the Priest role.


DEMI-GODS
Yes, there will be some more “boss” monsters, both roaming around and some guarding dungeons.
Also, most monster loot, namely high-end, has been rebalanced to better suit the risk vs. reward scenarios.


MOMENTUM AND CROSSHAIR WOBBLE
They have been implemented but should only very slightly affect gameplay. It will definitely hinder the “squirrely-ness” of some people engaged in melee combat.
Movement affects the amount of crosshair wobble.

NPC CITIES
Most cities have been reworked to be easier to navigate by sorting them into districts. For example: cities now have a magic district or a crafting district, etc.
There will be four NPC cities per racial area, three faction cities, and one capital.

PLAYER CITIES
Teleportation chambers have been removed.
Many cities that were previously accessible via a mountain or other terrain have been reworked to require either spells or the provided entrances. All cities have at least two entrances now.


SEA AND WATER
A lot of the empty areas of the map that were filled with water have been removed, or brought closer together.

SURGING
Pre-suring is supposed to be removed.

CRAFTING
When crafting, as you skill up to new levels, you’ll stop gaining from lower levels items. In order to gain up to higher levels, you’ll need to make items close to or at your current level.

Failures are also handled in a different way. While the failure rate has been increased a bit, the closer you are to a recipe not giving you skill gains, the more likely you are to succeed in crafting that recipe. Additionally, failing will not mean that you lose all of your materials every time, but there will be a chance to loose all, some or no materials at all.

To give you an example of all of the above, a weaponsmith starting at skill level 1 will be able to create, among many other items, a Crude Militant Greataxe. This is a rank 0 Greataxe of the Militant style. As his skill increases, he will be failing less and less and at skill level 25 he will have an almost guaranteed success at crafting this item as well as all other items of this rank. Once he hits 25 he will need to switch to a rank 1 recipe to continue increasing his skill.

All crafting skills now have a mastery to go with them. Some new skills have been introduced as well. Shields will be crafted with the shield crafting skill. Staves will be crafted with the staff crafting skill. Tailoring is used for cloth items, such as robes and bags. Leatherworking is the skill used to make leather armor.
Tools for crafting no longer exist. You simply need to be at the appropriate crafting station and have the required resources.

Rare ore plays a major role in a variety of crafting skills. In addition to being used in crafting weapons and armor, it can also be used to infuse other materials like wood and leather. Higher ranks of items require an infused variant of the specific material. Woodcutting can be used to infuse wood with rare ore to produce materials like selentine wood, furthering the depth of crafting.

Tanning and weaving are two new conversion skills. Skinning some creatures produces raw hides instead of leather. These hides need to be cured to become usable leather. You can combine raw hides with rare ore to make materials like neithal leather. Cloth, which can now be crafted, will be made with the weaving profession. Herb gathering nodes can now produce cotton, which can be processed into cloth, or infused with rare or to produce materials like leenspar cloth.

This system spreads the rare materials across all professions.

INCAPACITATED
When a player becomes incapacitated, he slowly regains hit points until he is above zero, at which point he can press the spacebar key to revive himself. If the player fails to press the spacebar in the alloted time, he will be returned to his bindstone. This change makes ganking enemies more crucial in fights, and allows a little more room for error in some situations that aren’t related to PvP. It also makes higher-end monsters more dangerous, because if a damaging hit would take you below -10 hit points, it kills you outright.

LIMBO
The limbo state is one that has been in discussion for a while. Basically when a character is ganked, he is able to quickly re-equip himself, hopefully with an already prepared bag, from his bank and return to an area relative to his corpse. There isn’t much time granted to do this so players have to be prepared.

Also, this feature has a gold cost related to the value of the items you decide to equip during this limbo (the re-equipping). This is aimed at reducing a players downtime so they can continue to play, should they decide to risk more of their gear to re-enter the fight.

The limbo feature will have a sensible cooldown. The gold cost increases for using the limbo feature successive times. There is a limit on how many times someone can use this feature in any given 24-hour period. Again, the respawn location is fairly large and completely random, so the player takes a chance at spawning right in the middle of his enemies after using this feature.

USER INTERFACE AND GRAPHICS
There will be a new chat system, offering more flexibility and customization, while being less intrusive and more user friendly.
There is a ton of work being done to graphics, world-building, lighting, GUI, etc.
Some dedicated item hot bars have been added for items such as weapons and reagents.

NEW PLAYERS
The training areas consist of a series of chambers where the players can train before they move on. Training works like a gauntlet tutorial, beginning with movement and scaling all the way up to spellcasting and combat.

This is sure to be a fun experience, and well worth the wait, even for veterans, because the training process has an epic ending! After training, the player is transported to the actual world. The entire system is to enhance the new player experience and lessen the learning curve at the beginning of the game.
Mount ownership is being reworked to fit the alignment system.

When a player dismounts, the mount will remember its owner for a brief period of time. If a different player jumps onto the mount, that player will be flagged a criminal and anyone can attack them without penalty. Guard towers will also attack players flagged criminal from this. This is a simple implementation to lower the risk of dismounting in crowded areas or NPC cities. This also helps newer players out, because they are usually the ones unaware of Darkfall’s mount thieves when they first get a mount.

“THE GRIND”
The grind is theoretically lessened, due to the player’s ability to become viable more quickly within his chosen role.

MARKET
The initial market plan: The market exists in all racial capitals and chaos cities. Players can buy and sell any item in the game here, but also place orders to buy and sell. If an item was not placed onto the market at the market you are buying it from, you can pay a courier cost to have it delivered to you, or you can travel to the market it is located at and pay the listed price.

Player concerns have made the implementation of the market delayed, due to the nature of Darkfall. It will not be implemented at launch.


SHIPS
There are some new ships to be crafted, as well as a mastery version of the skill. This mastery skill will open up new ships aimed at naval warfare. Speed, armor, layout, and maneuverability are all features giving each ship it’s own area of expertise.

All ships will be craftable using all NPC holding workbenches.
There is a Fishing Trawler, which is used strictly for fishing. The ship has only one cannon at the back. You can only fish with this particular ship and all fishing equipment has been removed from other ships (Not sure how this affects fishing poles without a ship).

The Launch ship is a smaller ship that can be used by smaller parties to participate in naval combat.
The Coastal Runner has no cannons but is easily the fastest ship on the seas. This ship is useful for transporting goods or people across the water as fast as possible. This ship will have a very low amount of hit points.

Another ship is the Sea Scraper. This ships act like an underwater submarine, scraping across the bottom of the ocean. This ship moves slowly, but can uncover hidden treasures and bring them to the surface.
Siege equipment and mount crafting are receiving similar reworkings.
Some thought is going into whether or not larger ships can push smaller ones.

POINT SYSTEM
There will be a point system implemented. This point system is a way for players and clans to monitor their progress and provide more gameplay options.

The first points are player points. PvP, PvE, harvesting, crafting, etc. grant player points. These points can be used to perform other actions within the game. There is also an achievement system, which is linked to the point system.

Clans can also gain points. Clan members gain points for themselves and their clan while participating in related activities. This also comes with an achievement system.

TERRITORY AND RESOURCES
Villages will essentially belong to player holdings around them but not just to one holding. There will be an ownership overlap for all villages and clans that own a holding will need to secure the villages that correspond to it if they want to reap the rewards. Clans that do not own a holding or want to profit from a village that is not within their holdings influence can still do so as there is a pillaging mechanic that serves exactly that purpose.

Essentially, a clan holding gives to the clan that owns it potential sovereignty over specific villages. Neighboring holdings will also have potential sovereignty over these villages. There will be a constant struggle between neighbors for control of villages and in turn resources generated by them. Add to this the occasional pillaging clan that will try to profit from poorly defended villages and you can hopefully see why we are so excited about this feature.

Clan holding resources nodes will remain within city walls, but won’t perform as well or yield as much if the surrounding villages aren’t in that particular clan’s control. The nearby villages have a direct effect on what the resource nodes provide.

Areas that have a higher risk to gather from potentially have a greater reward or yield.
Resource Monoliths are control points scattered across Agon which can be used as a more profitable way to harvest crafting resources, creating a PvP hotspot.

Any player can capture a monolith by grabbing the ownership mark from it if it isn’t already captured. The current capture holder of the monolith will have resources added to his bank and backpack, similar to how Villages work with gold now. The player can lose control of the monolith if he logs off, leaves the control area, or is killed. When someone loses control, the ownership mark returns to the monolith, becoming free to grab for anyone else.

Clan cities are no longer the almost-exclusive way of getting rare resources, such as ingots. Sea Fortresses, player villages, and resource monoliths, all being outside the relative safely of player holdings, will provide the bulk of materials for crafters to create the best equipment with. This will create many more PvP hotspots.

CLAN MEMBER PERMISSIONS
Permissions for access to clan features can now be individually assigned to members, they are no longer grouped into arbitrary and inflexible ranks. Permissions are organized into “categories” like Membership, Politics, Conquest etc. For each category there is also a management option that allows any member with it to assign or remove permissions of that specific category to other members.

There is also a Master permission that is automatically assigned to the clan leader and allows him to edit any and all member permissions.

Also to make things simpler, permissions are linked. That means that if for example someone is assigned the “Edit Recruits” permission, they automatically receive the “View Recruits” permission. If a management permission is assigned to a member, that member automatically receives all permissions in their category.
Each permission will have an associated title, the clan member can chose one of the titles from their assigned permissions to display as their clan role. For example, being assigned the “Edit Recruits” permission will give that member the option to display the “Recruiter” title.

Military Ranks still exist but are now related to PvP related performance and they are granted automatically upon achieving specific goals. The do not however grant any clan related permissions.
This will provide a lot more flexibility to Clan Leaderships as well as a way to let specific members handle tasks they are good at.

MERCENARIES IN SIEGES
Apart from that, work is also being done on a new contract system. At this moment this system is being developed to be quite open ended so that it can be used in various ways if we so choose. The first application of it however has to do with mercenary like contracts. We feel that sieges is an activity that even small clans that do not own a holding must experience as it’s a quite unique feature of Darkfall.

To that end we are implementing this contract system to serve as an organized and structured way for such clans to participate, contribute and even profit from siege related activities. Of course our aim is for the system to be also usable by clans that want to have mercenary work as their primary source of income.”
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I don't use steam and hate programs like steam. They serve completely no purpose.
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I don't use steam and hate programs like steam. They serve completely no purpose.

Obviously in this case it does since it enables small companies to spread their games on a large scale, just like Aventurine is trying with DarkFall Unholy Wars.

So, like, inform yourself and test Steam for a decent amount of time first before saying this kind of things? Also, voted for DarkFall! Can't wait to try out this revamped version.
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Obviously in this case it does since it enables small companies to spread their games on a large scale, just like Aventurine is trying with DarkFall Unholy Wars.

So, like, inform yourself and test Steam for a decent amount of time first before saying this kind of things? Also, voted for DarkFall! Can't wait to try out this revamped version.


/signed :)

Spread sandbox games to a bigger audiance :)
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Definitely put a thumbs down. I helped bug-test DFO, was a mod for the forums and played through beta and release and from the recent reports it looks like Aventurine hasn't changed enough for me to have faith in them for this.

If I'm going to support a sandbox game for a larger audience, I'll wait for a better one.
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i cant find many info about this game, other small 2 mins videos and a release date in december 12, guess till free trial cant say anything
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Updated my post with extra info. Hope it helps :)
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Darkfall got the green light. Valva is contacting the devs to get it on Steam :)
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I'm still skeptical about this. The way this game and Aventurine work is a bit too iffy for me. First of all, the original Darkfall wasn't even their game, another dev group came up with it and started developing it, then they got incorporated into Aventurine who was all like "Hey guys, Greece is cheap and stuff".

Which leads me to point 2, I trust no Greek developer for 2 reasons...

Reason A: Aventurine seems to be really bad at handling their games. The quick deterioration of the first Darkfall, combined with them getting cocky from media coverage in greece and whatnot kinda reinforced this for me. Then I also think of Greece's economic state, as far as I know that's where servers are still hosted (Not quite sure if this is the case as I've not researched much into this), the country's state is quite bad and that does have an affect on companies. Will have to see how it goes though.

Reason B: They don't really seems to have actually fixed stuff that appeared in the old version. Let's face it, the first Darkfall had game design issues, big ones that bit people in the rear if they weren't in those big zerg guilds. What they seem to have done in the new one is that they just revamped a game without actually going about fixing issues, it's just same game core with some added stuff to it, like the new controls and stuff.

On the flip side, while ambitious and really badly designed, atleast the first one, it was a real sandbox in the sense that player cities and stuff rose and fell. Players were free to do as they wanted. I appreciate that and for me it was a sandbox game that would have been good if properly handled.

If anything, sandbox games are seeing a good rise lately with Repopulation, Darkfall and others stepping up.
Let's all pretend there's something really important written here...

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I don't use steam and hate programs like steam. They serve completely no purpose.


That's unfounded as fuck. Steam sells are awesome and save you tons of money on great titles. It's also got a decent friend list so I can talk to people while in-game or invite them for voice chat. The groups for different games make pre-made RTS games a breeze, it's also an amazing way to meet really good players.
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More info in this interview: http://darkfallhotspot.net/
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That's unfounded as fuck. Steam sells are awesome and save you tons of money on great titles. It's also got a decent friend list so I can talk to people while in-game or invite them for voice chat. The groups for different games make pre-made RTS games a breeze, it's also an amazing way to meet really good players.


Steam prices are far away from cheap if you are really looking for cheap games. Sure it has nice sales, but that doesn't really make it cheap. Larger audience for the game also forces the game to be something it is not.
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I am completely against Steam & Origin, what concerns the single player games. Simply i own what i can hold in my hands physically, and buying games online for the same overpriced price as physical copies is dumb, and you can't even sell the games when you get bored of them. In other hands, its a good system for MMOs and that i would support.

About Darkfall i don't have much to say, it might be the best MMO of the year, for me it has its pros and cons, but for some reasons i will skip on it.

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On the flip side, while ambitious and really badly designed, atleast the first one, it was a real sandbox in the sense that player cities and stuff rose and fell. Players were free to do as they wanted. I appreciate that and for me it was a sandbox game that would have been good if properly handled.


They promised free building of cities though before release and then we found out all the cities were pre-planned designs in limited locations, which is hardly sandboxxy to me.

There was a lot of miscommunication and misadvertising of the first game that makes me distrustful of the Devs. Another thing is in beta there were a LOT of bugs they never handled and it lead to a lot of duping and overpowered characters in the first few weeks of release which permanently affected the server.
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There was to much wrong with the first DF, totally agree. I'm sceptic myself about the new one, Darkfall 1.5 in my opinion, but the funfactor in the game might be great. Don't want to miss this oportunity :)
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This is not my thing. Looked in to it, saw the realm saw the characters, saw the graphics, animations, gameplay, did not like it.

Not gonna support a game just because its sandbox. Gotta like it first.
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So did this game get release today? There hasn't been any advertisement of this game like at all. Are they really so confident of getting players without any effort. Usually when a game is close to release not even a adblock can save you from that spam.
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So did this game get release today? There hasn't been any advertisement of this game like at all. Are they really so confident of getting players without any effort. Usually when a game is close to release not even a adblock can save you from that spam.

Just the usual... the release got delayed.

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http://www.mmorpg.co...nholy-Wars.html

Hype level -14

Seems like they are doing just fine lol. Well didn't expect anything out of them really was just curious did it get released or not.
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You can pre-order it on friday 14th, with pre-order you can enter open beta on 17th and launch is tba

http://www.darkfallo...om/blog/?p=3454
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