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Seems like 2012 will be the year of sandboxes or more like the announcement of them, because as it seems not many gets released this year.

Here is another one with a promising concept, only downside for me is the graphics engine (its kinda already outdated, but since its a pre-alpha phase maybe they are just showing the graphic with minimum detail)
Release date planned around 2015-2016 pffff

The Vision

As Forsaken Studios creative director, I have the honor of helping focus the teams efforts and influencing the overall design of our game and its mechanics and systems. No small task, nor is it one I take lightly, but it is one that I believe warrants an introduction of myself to the community, and a briefing on the goals and aim of the project, as well as what I will do to help ensure this game is the one that so many of us have been waiting for.

You probably noticed I said "us". That is because I myself am a long time gamer, having spent more than 15 years of my life playing MMOs of all kinds. Theme-park, sandbox, PvE, PvP, you name it, I've probably tried it. I have been in dozens of guilds and clans, and led my share of them. I've been a fairly quiet, mostly positive, presence in many game communities over the years, and if I were to tell you my screen names many of you would probably recognize one or two of them, particularly those of you from some of the newer games out there. But I digress; my point is that I am, and have been for quite some time, one of you. I have been up well into the morning and late to work because of games that I fell in love with, and communities that demanded my response to that one last post before I run out the door. Most importantly though, I am a father of three children, and I have a life that demands my attention outside of my monitor from time to time. That gives me an understanding of what 'casual' gamers are looking for and need, no matter how 'hard-core' of a gamer I might want to be. All of that combined gives me an excellent perspective for understanding where the players, you guys, are coming from when you discuss what it is you want from a game. I plan to put that experience with the games and the communities to good use and help develop a game, the game, that you will love, even as you curse us for making you late to work or miss hours of sleep.

Let me add that these are the goals and intended end results that I am shooting for, for the game, not necessarily a promise that the game will be like this. Rather this is my personal promise to you all that I will do everything I can to guide the project towards these and other similar goals and how I envision it in my mind. We however have a long road ahead of us, and there are obstacles and technical limitations that we can not predict waiting for us around every corner. I ask for your support, understanding, constructive criticism, and most importantly your suggestions to help us make the game better for everyone.

First and foremost, I want to belay any fears or concerns that we, like many open pvp sandbox style games out there, will be focused solely on combat. Combat is great, but we are well aware it is not the only element of great games. It is of course an important feature of the game, and we are absolutely going to do our best to ensure that it is smooth, intuitive, and fun. However, harbor no doubts, it will not be all our game has to offer. You will not be playing a game that is built around combat, where it is the entire point and purpose of playing to either battle or support battles and endless or pointless wars.

It is my goal to provide players with a rich and fulfilling economy in which every item is created or handled by players. That massive economy will play a part in not only players personal adventures, but also player founded cities as well as NPC cities. I intend for it to feel like, finally, the NPC's are living in your world for once, and not the other way around. When we say we're giving you the sand and tools to make what you want of the world, we're not kidding, and your fellow players and the NPCs will be effected by what you do with those tools. Even if it means a cities population starves or emigrates to somewhere that will better meet their and their families needs, leaving a veritable ghost town behind. The crafting system we have planned is one of the most daunting tasks we have ahead of us, and not just because we made a single profession have tens of thousands of options that result in only a handful of items actually being useful. Instead, it is because we are taking our time to ensure that every item has a purpose, a value, and is actually useful. Say good bye to lists of filler crafting items to raise up your professions skills to get to the useful items at the bottom of the list, and say hello to professions that, from beginning to end, are useful, needed, and not only a viable play-style, but a deep and fulfilling one. Whether your calling is to be a shipbuilder, an engineer, architect, doctor, apothecary, alchemist, miner, forester, hunter, farmer, brewer, tailor, jeweler, smith, fisherman, chef, or carpenter you will find your profession is as important to the game world as the next, with everyone having a purpose and role to fill that is kept in demand by a well balanced economy and realistic world. That, to me, is how a player driven economy should be.

Territory and politics are not forgotten either, and are in fact some of our most commonly discussed topics within the team. I am personally working on territory systems presently that I hope will not only give players the ability to stake and shape their claim on the world, but build it into a kingdom or remain as a small city-state that keeps to themselves at their leisure. No more 3am alarm clock raids on enemies territories to take advantage of time zone differences, the territory system has features planned to ensure that wars are not won in an odd hour raid, but through tactics, attrition, and skill, with the needed support of strong economies and logistics. Expand your borders by force, trade, or political dealings, and defend your own with walls, defensive towers, outposts, keeps, castles and fortresses and npc guards patrolling under your orders. Enlist player run mercenary guilds to serve in your guard forces, militia, or army, if you can afford them. Set and enforce every law as you wish in your land instead of abiding by laws set by the NPCs. Raise taxes to make your coffers swell in preparation for war or expeditions into the unknown, or lower them to promote growth and try to steal citizens from your neighbors. Bear your lands heraldry on your shields, cloaks, and flags identifying yourself as a defender of your lieges honor or raise a rebellion and fly your own flag as you vie for control of the capitol. Enter into negotiations for peaceful terms and trade agreements or enact embargoes and close your borders to your neighbor under the penalty of death. These are just some of the choices, the options, the possibilities that I hope to bring to you. War and endless PvP need not be the only answer, not when we offer so many tools for you to make the world what you want, and I assure you, that is just a glimpse of my goals.

What if the mundane is not for you? What if you don't fancy yourself a farmer nor a warrior? Well, perhaps exploration suits you, and we have you covered there as well. With a massive world planned, multiple continents each being a unique world in their own right, separated by unforgiving oceans that hide countless islands and uncharted areas that you could find yourself lost in due to navigational errors or relentless storms. More of a scholar? No problem! Hidden throughout the entire world we will have relics of the old world for you to search for, gather, and study. It's not just an egg hunt though, as items you find may change the course of the world, unlock new skills or recipes for crafting, reveal details to help you find lost areas of the world, or explain how to defeat a legendary beast that is ravaging your homeland... in a unique language that you have to collect pieces of and use your brain to decipher. Don't bother with google though, it's not a real world language, nor does it draw influence from one! You never know, you might uncover the secret to a new magic spell in some lost ruin that might bring you riches on the player controlled market that you've only dreamed of. Be cautious however, you never know when that simple cave you're wandering into might turn out to be the home of an ancient evil.

So the bit about magic caught your attention did it? The magic system we'd like to unleash is something that I have never seen in my MMOing 'career' before. It brings to light the fact that magic is useful for more than just roasting opponents. Utility and versatility is a magi's bread and butter. Make no mistake though, a magi is not to be trifled with. They have the ability to build and customize their own spells with the components that they gather and keep in their spell books, allowing them to create truly devastating spells that are so powerful it is as likely to rip them apart as it is to turn you into a pile of ash... or just light the candle next to you and laugh as you pee your pants. They are not all powerful however, they have limits, and in fact magi sometimes face hardships beyond what the average person could imagine as a punishment for what disciples see as blasphemy.

What's a disciple? Well, don't worry, it's not a class. I would never dare ruin such a dream by boxing players into set roles and skill sets. It's just one more path a player can choose to walk down. In this path, players devote their lives to the worship of a deity in return for gifts and aid. Often in the form of magic which the disciple can call down to aid them or others, or smite the wicked... or the pesky good guys. However, the deities have all vanished from the heavens somewhere in the midst of the main plot and it will take incredible determination, dedication, a lot of followers, and likely some good old fashioned sacrifices to summon an old god back to their rightful place where they can look down over us pitiful mortals. Players also will have the ability to create their own religions and attempt to gain enough support from others to actually will a new god into existence. Deities are fickle though, and disciples will need to work to earn their newly summoned gods favor. You, after all, don't control the deities actions, so be careful what you wish for, especially if your newly summoned deity has a twisted sense of humor.

About that plot. Just because this is a sandbox style game doesn't mean there is no main story line. In fact, the entire world is the way it is because of a story that stretches over thousands of years that all lead up to the point in time where you enter the world and help decide the course of the story from there on. Will you be a hero, a villain, or maybe just the farmer in the middle of no where tending your crops praying that whatever that group of adventurers that just ran by to do doesn't stir up more trouble for your crops. The main story is just one single piece of the massive puzzle, as there are countless off-shoots of lore and history in the works for you to enjoy and partake in, as well as dynamic events planned to occur randomly, based on certain requirements being met, or by the discretion of a team dedicated solely to making the world seem alive and forever changing.

Speaking of the world being alive, lets not forget the creatures of the world. From the simple critters scurrying past your feet to hide beneath a bush, to the herbivores struggling to survive and migrating to find food and water. Even the predators that follow and track their prey will seem real, especially if it is you they are hunting. There is, after all, a reason fences and walls were invented. Just because you are in your village doesn't mean you're safe from the hungry hunter. I haven't even mentioned the multitude of legendary creatures, but there will be a variety. Some will lie in wait, hidden away from the world except for when they need to eat, or breed... Others may actively hunt other creatures, or even players, attack villages and possibly even castles. Someone really should track that beast down that keeps destroying your neighbors farm, but are you going to do it without an army? Maybe it's better to just post in on the taverns notice-board and see if some group of heroes are up to the challenge. Might want to do something about it soon though, as the population of NPCs in the city is dwindling, they're all scared and leaving for safer pastures. Yep, that's right, I even want the NPC's to react to the world around them, and ask for your help if they have no where else to turn. Don't worry though, no exclamation or question marks over their heads, you will actually have to socialize, if that's your thing, to find out if someone needs help or has a task that needs doing. Just don't take too long getting back to your estate, you know what they say about the mice when the cats away. Someone needs to keep those slaves, servants, and hirelings in line. You did remember to restock their food and water stores, make sure they had the materials and tools they needed before you left to drag your gladiator off to the city arena to try to make some gold off his blood right? Lets hope the new guards do better at keeping vermin and beasts out of your mine this time, it took days to clear them out and clean up the blood and bones of the last work force you lost. Ah... the simple joys of a game world that seemingly lives and breathes.

I honestly could go on for several more paragraphs, but I think it's best to leave some things for later. Having said all that, this is my vision, my take on that game I and so many others have been looking for. It may take a while yet, but you have my word, it will be worth the wait especially if I have anything to say about it. So if you share my interest in the game that I just described, you enjoyed the bits of my vision of what this game should be, then you have found the right place. Just don't blame me when you're losing sleep or are late to work!
I certainly hope this little post gave you a bit of insight into my vision and the sort of goals that I have set for the team. Most importantly I hope that it helped clear up any assumptions or rumors about what we're intending or what the game is all about. I look forward to seeing this community develop with your help and support, and please, spread the word about what we're trying to accomplish here.

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Embers of Caerus - Developer Diary - Siege Warfare (Part One)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDJC2KHsj30

Embers of Caerus game presentation December 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJbWsKhwvw

Embers of Caerus Dungeon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3sK3acLkCg

Embers of Caerus Naval System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=kXPp5IvyXqU

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Yeah, I just heard about this game...Sounds really awesome from what I read, an outdated graphics engine dosent bother me as much as the first person view does, I honestly think its less immersive. Id rather be able to see my character and watch him progress in game.
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Yeah, I just heard about this game...Sounds really awesome from what I read, an outdated graphics engine dosent bother me as much as the first person view does, I honestly think its less immersive. Id rather be able to see my character and watch him progress in game.

Well, certainly a peculiar opinion you have there. But would that be reason to you for whether or not you would play such a game? =o
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All I can say is that I had been been playing Mortal Online with the founder of this company who is a truly great and skilled guy, where he got fed up much earlier than me and left when it was obvious that Starvault will be utterly failing creating the game they promised, just to gather up like-minded friends and create concepts, then create a prototype, and finally start the actual project. They're a rather large, most skilled and dedicated group of true sandboxers who unlike others for sure will stay true to their promised game setup. For RL reasons I had no time to join up the team myself.

Regarding the actual game: The concepts are amazing, the graphics are... well, a matter of taste. They intentionally chose this style.

Too bad that they'll possibly be a bit late on the market, and also it will be hard to beat something like ArcheAge. At least if AA becomes what it promises right now.
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@Lexx.....I agree...Things are looking on the up and up with sandbox gaming these days. I'm glad guys are pushing their ideas and fighting for proper budgets...So far as the graphics, if it ended up having a pretty good sandbox experience, I'd give it a shot. ;)
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Well, certainly a peculiar opinion you have there. But would that be reason to you for whether or not you would play such a game? =o



No definitely not, I jsut dont prefer 1st person in an sandbox...however I didnt mind it in Mortal!
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This game seems like it has some great potential and if the developers actually do what they envision, it will be awesome. I agree with developer's opinions too so I really hope it works out!!
However, its going to take so long by the time its released I bet people will be looking at a next-NEXT gen sandbox mmo lol... Hopefully once it gets into later stages and they actually get some substantial funding the makers will work full-time on and the dev-process will get sped up.
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Well its just one of this project like Darkfall and Mortal Online. They are to small and dont have the money. A vision is not enough to make a good game. Its not going to deliver, just as the other two.
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Caravath, I wonder what information you base your negative assumption comment on ? Do you actually have information about the team or are you just stating some guessings as facts ?

No matter what, unlike DF and MO, they have a brilliant and experienced team with proper management. This alone makes a big difference and money is second. In DF and MO they changed their game goals within a blink of an eye every second moment, which can only disappoint the players you already have while attracting new ones instead, just to disappoint those soon after due to new fundemantal changes to the game. Knowing many of these these guys, I wouldn't expect such turncoating from Forsaken Studios.

A problem rather could be the pure sandbox/FFA-loot/consequences setup - after all the convenient games out there people forgot how to "play real", being used to easy mode everywhere. Thus, this is somewhat a niche market only - hope it's large enough for them to make a living. If they come out with their game before someone else does.
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Sounds good as for now. But since so far from release, I don't think I'll be checking this out just yet.

To dedicated to Archeage for now.
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As I mentioned in update #5, every dollar counts, but so does every backer! To that end, we are starting a new campaign:
"I give a buck about sandbox gaming!"

All you need to do to support this initiative, and show your support for true sandbox MMO games, is the following two things:

  • Donate just $1 to our project (we have added a $1 reward for you to show your support)
  • Spread the word far and wide, and encourage other people to "give a buck about sandbox gaming!"


http://www.kickstart...pe/posts/236722
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Damn beggars !

(At least that's my favorite yell in MMOs to some folks B) )
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The Naval System:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=kXPp5IvyXqU

Link to the discussion on the forums: Naval System

If they will be able to make all of this... is gonna be awesome.





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